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Post by mwshearn on Dec 7, 2006 23:51:14 GMT -4
Sooo...what's was up with the last episode where he asked if Alex had asked about him, was I the only one who noticed the writers were trying to imply something there??? And then Alex said she wanted to talk to Ben, then Juliet lied to him about it.
Just a hunch here, but I think Ben is kind of like a father figure to Alex and whether she regards him as one or not, I think he may have parental affections towards her, in order for him to ask if she wanted to talk to him.
I would make the suggestion of another relationship, but since he's lived there his whole life and so has she, if she's 16 and he's in his 40s, I think that would be too weird even for the writers of LOST.
Further opinions?
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Post by katm0855 on Dec 8, 2006 0:25:39 GMT -4
Like you said, I think there's a father-like relationship there. I'm sure that we'll find out all about it soon enough. But I think it was genuine concern when he asked about her.
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Post by lovebenry on Dec 8, 2006 0:39:22 GMT -4
I agree about a possible father daughter thing. It seemed to me that way, at least. Like he had helped take care of her.
I am excited to find out more about this!
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Post by linus108 on Dec 9, 2006 12:58:57 GMT -4
i also agree that Ben must be Alex's father. i was talking about it with my friends and we think that it's pretty obvious. Well, Remember Karl? he tried to help Sawyer but he got caught and he got beat up by Tom. now, we don't know where he is, and he could be possibly dead. but Alex has helped the losties two times already, both with Claire and when she came running with the slingshot. but nothing has happened to her. they havem't put her in a cage or anything! that's because she is the daughter of the leader, Ben  |
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Post by Maeve on Dec 9, 2006 16:40:48 GMT -4
I felt so sorry for Ben when he asked about Alex. Kind of broke my heart a bit. It's one of the few places we've seen him be vulnerable. He goes under thinking that Alex didn't care enough to inquire about how he was doing. And how did Alex get to the island? I'm thinking the same way Sawyer and Kate will get off. Maybe Karl had a boat. Or maybe it's the boat Ben was going to use to bring Jack home.
I get father-daughter vibes from the whole thing. Maybe Ben raised her with his hypothetical first wife (who I have entirely made up).
Did anyone else think that Alex might have been worried they (Juliet and Danny) were going to kill Ben too and that's why she asked to see him? To make sure he was alive?
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Post by sailornova on Dec 10, 2006 0:04:10 GMT -4
I believe he may be a father or a father figure to her and I REALLY don't trust Juliet! I think she and a few others (pardon the pun!) are trying to kill him to gain control of the project! Why I don't know! I heard that the Island was a home for the world's best and retired secret agents and that's why he told Sawyer that he had to con him so to gain his trust and then I think he said something about they were better con artists then Sawyer was!!
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Post by mwshearn on Dec 10, 2006 18:21:31 GMT -4
linus108, I don't know if you were implying that Ben is Alex's biological father, but just in case I wanted to reiterate that he can't be because she is (I think we can all agree) Rousseau's daughter with her husband who died on the island, but I have a strong feeling that when they took her Ben sort-of raised her in place of not having a family on his own. I think maybe Ethan would have possibly done the same with Claire's baby, maybe a family substitute for the single men in the Others who can't have kids because they aren't in a relationship like Danny and Colleen?  Anyways, obviously they lied to her when they said they would take her to Ben if he had to ask about her, so I agree with the idea that Juliet and Danny are possibly both trying to overthrow Ben (I would personally love to see Juliet bite it by the end of the season, she's almost as annoying as Shannon and AnaLucia.) |
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Post by sailornova on Dec 12, 2006 23:27:29 GMT -4
I totally agree! ;D
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Post by nissun on Dec 13, 2006 12:21:11 GMT -4
I agree too, he must be like her father, and Juliet lied to him because she didn't want to see him happy before that moment of fear. That woman is very cruel. I would say that the real danger is her, not Ben, no matter how sweet she tries to sound.
And if the theory of Alex being the adoptive daughter of Ben was true, it would say a lot about him. Because think about Alex: she is a good girl, worried about the survivors, and has helped them a lot of times. Maybe that's because of Ben's influence, and he is not that bad after all.
If Ben was a cruel and dangerous leader, he would like his daughter to be cruel and strong as well, don't you think? A father wants his sons to be like him. A father would test his sons and daughters, would know how they are. If he, being so cruel, knew that Alex was kind and merciful, they wouldn't have a good relationship. And, for what we have seen, Alex asked about Ben and Ben asked if she had asked about him, right?
I think that Juliet was the one who ordered the capture of Alex's boyfriend. She said that Ben and her make decisions together. Maybe Ben takes the decisions about things outside their community, and Alex manages the things inside... Maybe Alex wanted to see Ben to know if he was ok, or know if he approved her boyfriend's capture.
God, there are too many questions to answer...
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Post by Edith S. Baker on Dec 13, 2006 14:08:57 GMT -4
I agree with Nissun. Juliet is the evil one. One thing that bothers me about Ben is that he was so vicious at beating Sawyer up. If he is not cruel, why beat up Sawyer?
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Post by nissun on Dec 13, 2006 14:27:13 GMT -4
Sawyer started  But seriously, I don't know. I would love to discover that he is not bad at all, but the "realist" side of my mind tells me that it won't happen... If the others are the good ones, why have they treated the survivors like they have? xD That's the question I can't stop thinking about. They look offended, afraid of the survivors, and they act as if they had all the right to feel offended. Allright, Sun killed that woman, who said that they were not the enemy. But what about the man THEY killed when they wanted Claire back?  Don't they understand that the survivors only want that, to survive, be rescued, and that they are not in the island because they want? |
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Post by linus108 on Dec 14, 2006 1:56:34 GMT -4
katm0855 recently posted a very interesting article. the thread is titled "interesting article about Benjamin." in that article there was a paragraph that seemed to be saying that Ben could be Alex's uncle?? i think i like that theory better than father/daughter theory..........
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Post by silenteyes on Dec 14, 2006 5:37:02 GMT -4
why have they treated the survivors like they have? xD I have a feeling that they have to treat them like this, for some unknown reason that we are yet to find out. I think Michael actually touched on this in an interview once, and I agree with him, that I think the others have a very good reason to be so defensive, secretive and over-protective of themselves. |
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Post by sedders on Dec 19, 2006 17:42:59 GMT -4
In the last episode i think Alex was meant to run in and cause that disruption like she did to get Kate to panic and get Jack to do the surgery as i think she would want Ben to live, i dont know who would be in on this though and i may be wrong.. i think there's also tensions between her and Juliet.. maybe Ben and Juliet were meant to be a sort of mother/father figure to alex but she only grew close to Ben?
-ponders-
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Post by katm0855 on Dec 19, 2006 17:53:47 GMT -4
When I was thinking about what kind of relationship, I didn't literally mean father/daughter. More like he looks after her like a father. Maybe an uncle?
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Don't they understand that the survivors only want that, to survive, be rescued, and that they are not in the island because they want?
