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Post by Edith S. Baker on Nov 15, 2008 0:57:34 GMT -4
Well actually Steph, it's not that someone was disrespectful, it's just that someone made a false statement that can be the start of rumors.
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Post by Maeve on Nov 15, 2008 1:05:16 GMT -4
I may be speaking out of term, but I would like to live in a world where we don't even have to worry about this. Reading the thread, i dont think anyone has spoken out of term Maybe its because of my generation, I dunno, but I think there are more important things to worry about than the gay/ straight thing. If consenting adults wanna show their love for each other, then good for them. The whole ban thing on gay marriage is rediculous. We should worry about why people dont have enough money to feed their families and so resort to crime etc (theres a long list, but you get my drift) I really dont wanna offend anyone, and I hope im not coming over as a bad person, but we all need to just look after each other. LOL Which generation?  There is no way you will ever get rid of people who are intolerant because, to a certain extent, they are born that way. I really think some people are born with a predisposition toward fear of those who are different and a fear of change. During periods of stress, or when they are frightened, they become very distrustful of anyone who is different than they are. So gays are out to destroy marriage and lure our children into the gay lifestyle. Muslims hate us and want to kill us. Blacks hate us and want our money. Mexicans want our jobs. Communists want to take our freedom away. Time is trying to force us to change. Why can't it be like the good old days (the fifties or the eighties depending on your age), when everything was perfect? Unfortunately, there are always hate mongers who take advantage of this fear of the unknown to further their own agenda. coughpalincough Yes, we should be more concerned with the real problems facing us now but the intolerant blame those who are different for those problems. They think if we could get rid of them those problems would go away. I think one of major problems in our society is the intolerant. Get rid of them and maybe our problems go away. |
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Post by benlinusisagoodguy on Nov 15, 2008 5:18:36 GMT -4
ummm guys does it really matter? LOL  |
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Post by benobsessed on Nov 15, 2008 7:30:10 GMT -4
I may be speaking out of term, but I would like to live in a world where we don't even have to worry about this. Reading the thread, i dont think anyone has spoken out of term Maybe its because of my generation, I dunno, but I think there are more important things to worry about than the gay/ straight thing. If consenting adults wanna show their love for each other, then good for them. The whole ban thing on gay marriage is rediculous. We should worry about why people dont have enough money to feed their families and so resort to crime etc (theres a long list, but you get my drift) I really dont wanna offend anyone, and I hope im not coming over as a bad person, but we all need to just look after each other. LOL Which generation? There is no way you will ever get rid of people who are intolerant because, to a certain extent, they are born that way. I really think some people are born with a predisposition toward fear of those who are different and a fear of change. During periods of stress, or when they are frightened, they become very distrustful of anyone who is different than they are. So gays are out to destroy marriage and lure our children into the gay lifestyle. Muslims hate us and want to kill us. Blacks hate us and want our money. Mexicans want our jobs. Communists want to take our freedom away. Time is trying to force us to change. Why can't it be like the good old days (the fifties or the eighties depending on your age), when everything was perfect? Unfortunately, there are always hate mongers who take advantage of this fear of the unknown to further their own agenda. coughpalincough Yes, we should be more concerned with the real problems facing us now but the intolerant blame those who are different for those problems. They think if we could get rid of them those problems would go away. I think one of major problems in our society is the intolerant. Get rid of them and maybe our problems go away. I agree it's the intolerance that's the problem. I mean for exaample (and this is a mad up example to demonstrate a point LOL) if Obama was a homosexual man in an interracial relationship, is that really going to affect how good a President he can be? I think it's a shame that we (as a world society) somehow think it would |
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Post by benobsessed on Nov 15, 2008 7:32:08 GMT -4
Well actually Steph, it's not that someone was disrespectful, it's just that someone made a false statement that can be the start of rumors. I understand that. And when I said why a "we" worrying/ discussing it I actually meant we as in society as a whole, not the board. It's my fault for the misunderstanding |
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Post by flummery on Nov 15, 2008 14:53:23 GMT -4
I like the way you guys think.  |
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Post by snivellusfriend on Nov 16, 2008 20:43:02 GMT -4
great piece. I've always wondered whether Michael questioned his orientation before marrying Carrie. I mean, he probably has. I wonder whether he would classify himself as bi, or straight. Where in the world did you get the idea that he questioned his orientation? He just said that he was the artistic type who wouldn't fit the "norm" that society decided defines a man: ruthless, hunter, fisherman, etc. I wondered the same thing because I felt a kinship to him, reading about his childhood and the tough times before he became successful. I felt hurt, alone, and that I was different from everyone else and certainly questioned my orientation after years of people assuming that I was a guy or gay; I believed that since I didn't seem to fit the stereotypical female, which seemed to be standards that I should fit, that something was wrong with me and that I people might've been right about me all along, that I didn't realize that I was gay, bisexual, or transgendered. I thought that all guys were aggresive, like the stereotype; I'm glad that Michael's not like that. From another thread; I wrote it before I'd read this thread. I didn't expect that it'd be the exact topic talked about. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who didn't want children; I wish that I knew that there were other straight men and women who didn't want children, either, because I grew up thinking that that might've meant that I was gay, especially since strangers thought I was a guy or thought I was gay. I wonder whether my parents think I am because they've known that I grew up having that problem, especially now that they know about my theatre audition. When I was around 19 and a couple of young guys had laughed and wondered aloud whether I was gay...I overheard my mother tell my father I was upset (I was angry that I was still be mislabeled by people, even after I'd turned 18; I thought it would go away once I finished school.) by that and he said, seriously or neutrally, "Yeah, she would be."  (and every time I'd be in room and an announcer on a T.V program would mention that someone was gay or transgendered, my mother would change the channel or turn the T.V off) I've always wondered what he meant by that because it sounded to me like they were thinking that I was gay, too, but was hiding in the closet or angry that people knew that I was gay. It's quite silly. I've had crushes on guys; I just don't tell anyone about them because they're private to me.  I liked the gay guys that I read about in the 'New York Times;' They seemed like very nice people who're so open and accepting of other people. |
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There is no way you will ever get rid of people who are intolerant because, to a certain extent, they are born that way. I really think some people are born with a predisposition toward fear of those who are different and a fear of change. During periods of stress, or when they are frightened, they become very distrustful of anyone who is different than they are. So gays are out to destroy marriage and lure our children into the gay lifestyle. Muslims hate us and want to kill us. Blacks hate us and want our money. Mexicans want our jobs. Communists want to take our freedom away. Time is trying to force us to change. Why can't it be like the good old days (the fifties or the eighties depending on your age), when everything was perfect? 
(and every time I'd be in room and an announcer on a T.V program would mention that someone was gay or transgendered, my mother would change the channel or turn the T.V off) I've always wondered what he meant by that because it sounded to me like they were thinking that I was gay, too, but was hiding in the closet or angry that people knew that I was gay.
I liked the gay guys that I read about in the 'New York Times;' They seemed like very nice people who're so open and accepting of other people.