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Post by Nuala on May 15, 2009 23:13:31 GMT -4
ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!! If this is going to stop the 815 from crashing, then Ben is dead, cause he needed Jack to help him with his tumor, and since the 815 never crashed on the Island, then Ben's dead!!!!!  |
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Post by gswoody on May 15, 2009 23:53:45 GMT -4
I'm wondering if instead of the bomb going off at the moment Juliet hit it with the rock, if they did another "flashy" thing. Because wasn't the moment Jacob died supposed to be taking place at the same time? Almost like as Jacob died the whole thing reset itself? It sounds weird to try to explain, but I thought Jacob's death was too easy. If he knew that it was his enemy and not Locke don't you think he'd know what he was there for. And to have lived hundreds/thousands of years to be stabbed and die? It makes me sad to think Ben was a pawn, but I hope he has something up his sleeve. I thought for one moment that instead of stabbing Jacob, he was going to turn and stab fake Locke instead! Also, wasn't Widmore sending the people from the freighter to blow up the island? If he were trying to do that wouldn't that be what Jack/Faraday planned to do? Then they couldn't travel back to 1977 and destroy it and the future would be changed after all? Sorry this sounds so "all over the place" but I'm still having a rough time wrapping my brain around the finale! |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2009 2:18:16 GMT -4
Excellent point, Nuala, on Benjamin's tribe. You're absolutely correct. But the blessing was still on Benjamin and subsequent descendants. It describes a fierce-some person, don't you think? Don't know whether that fits into the show, but it's interesting.
Anyway, Re: the last scene: Dead is really dead: Jacob, fake Locke and Ben in the temple. It seems now that Ben knew all along that it wasn't Locke. Remember, his episode-title-speaking remarks to Sun that "Dead is dead." Ben knew then that the dead don't rise, but he went along with it. And he told Richard, so Richard was clued in before Ilana arrived. But did Ben know about Jacob's rival? He knows it's not Locke, but if Richard kept him out of the loop, so to speak, Ben might be joining Jacob in the fiery pit, if he's not careful.
Cabin fever: It makes me wonder how this guy became non-corporeal being. Seems now that the cabin was this guy's all along, and the circle of ash was what kept him confined to the cabin. I wonder if Locke got conned by Jacob's rival right after the crash and provided the guy with his loophole (the dirt crossing the circle of ash? the "hole" in the loop?) and later a body. Poor Locke always getting played.
Richard had to have known about Jacob's rival. Did he not tell Ben? Ben appears so trusting, childlike at the end. This makes Ben either as much as doofus as Locke or a con man playing a REALLY LONG CON.
Flashes before your eyes: I also am now beginning to come around to the idea that the white flash was another EM time-shift rather than the H-bomb exploding. So if the island shifted, then it wasn't there when the bomb exploded so no one got killed. Just a thought. In any case I don't care what happened to 1977ers. It's just gonna be more of Jack-Kate-Sawyer trying to figure how to shoot each other, as Rose would say. Be nice if they would go do that in another dimension and leave the rest of us alone. And NOT SHOW UP outside the statue.
I think the epic battle might be the fight between the humans and the immortals Jacob and his rival, for control of the island anyway.
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Post by bobdoc on May 16, 2009 9:47:14 GMT -4
Terry actually gave a few comments on what happened- and is the first one involved with the show to actually talk about the finale- at www.goupstate.com/article/20090515/ARTICLES/905151022********************************************* Spoiler alert: If you haven't seen the season finale of "Lost," you might want to wait to read this story until afterward. Viewers of ABC's "Lost" saw the body of a dead John Locke in the show's Season 5 finale Wednesday night. However, a very alive Terry O'Quinn, who plays Locke, was in Spartanburg on Thursday to play in the BMW Charity Pro-Am at Carolina Country Club. Between holes, O'Quinn was happy to talk to fans about golf, the finale and the fate of his character in the show's final season, beginning in 2010. O'Quinn called himself an OK golfer, saying he would be happy with an 85 or under. "I played well on the front. A little bit rough on the back," he said as his group neared hole 17. O'Quinn said he hasn't seen the finale and didn't know how the story was edited. "Don't tell me," he joked. "I want to be surprised." In the season cliffhanger, a bomb, which could prevent Flight 815 from ever crashing on the mysterious island, was detonated. As for his character, O'Quinn says he's really gone. Locke's dead body was rolled out of a metal box toward the end of the two-hour episode, baffling islanders who had been following a Locke imposter. Exactly who is now occupying Locke's body wasn't revealed. O'Quinn said it would be "a good guess" to assume it's a man seen with the infamous Jacob in the beginning of the episode. "I think, unfortunately, I think it's ended for Locke. But I'm still there, as far as I know," O'Quinn said. "I don't know how it's going to end for this other guy. I'm sad. I miss John Locke, poor guy. He was a pawn." O'Quinn is gearing up to play a new character when the sixth season begins next year. As for the rest of the story line, he swears he has no idea. "Your guess is honestly as good as mine is," he said. "There's going to be some confrontation that will somehow, I'm guessing, have to do with Jack or Locke or something like that. I think these guys are just setting up good and evil. It's the way Locke said in the very beginning of the show: One is light and one is dark. Two sides. I think that's what we've got." |
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Post by greenleaf on May 16, 2009 10:14:03 GMT -4
I'm completely disappointed by the ending of a season and a season as a whole. But the scene of conversation of Ben and Jacob was excellent though. Michael was magnificent! The disappointed person speaks with his ungrateful and indifferent god... ;D ;D I so much understand poor Ben   |
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Post by Edith S. Baker on May 16, 2009 10:53:01 GMT -4
Still trying to wrap my mind around it...I am dying to post my thoughts and reactions to your thoughts, but alas, studying for Monday's Latin final takes priority over dissecting what I've seen. I probably won't be able to post until sometime next week. (And yes I was able to translate Ricardus' Latin, but only after rewinding a few times because he spoke very fast! If it had Latin subtitles I would have gotten it instantly because it's a very simple sentence. It gave me a little thrill to understand the Others' langauge!!) Two quick things, though: Jack went through hell and back because he lost Kate?  SO F-ING LAME!!! Jeeeez.... LOVED Sun finding Charlie's DriveShaft ring. I've been aching for closure on that for two years!!! Pretty bloody amazing, this episode was!! I hope to post soon, maybe after watching it a second time. If you put the subtitles on, then you have the Latin words. That's how I got it. |
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Post by lostali75 on May 16, 2009 12:45:13 GMT -4
Terry actually gave a few comments on what happened- and is the first one involved with the show to actually talk about the finale- at www.goupstate.com/article/20090515/ARTICLES/905151022********************************************* Spoiler alert: If you haven't seen the season finale of "Lost," you might want to wait to read this story until afterward. Viewers of ABC's "Lost" saw the body of a dead John Locke in the show's Season 5 finale Wednesday night. However, a very alive Terry O'Quinn, who plays Locke, was in Spartanburg on Thursday to play in the BMW Charity Pro-Am at Carolina Country Club. Between holes, O'Quinn was happy to talk to fans about golf, the finale and the fate of his character in the show's final season, beginning in 2010. O'Quinn called himself an OK golfer, saying he would be happy with an 85 or under. "I played well on the front. A little bit rough on the back," he said as his group neared hole 17. O'Quinn said he hasn't seen the finale and didn't know how the story was edited. "Don't tell me," he joked. "I want to be surprised." In the season cliffhanger, a bomb, which could prevent Flight 815 from ever crashing on the mysterious island, was detonated. As for his character, O'Quinn says he's really gone. Locke's dead body was rolled out of a metal box toward the end of the two-hour episode, baffling islanders who had been following a Locke imposter. Exactly who is now occupying Locke's body wasn't revealed. O'Quinn said it would be "a good guess" to assume it's a man seen with the infamous Jacob in the beginning of the episode. "I think, unfortunately, I think it's ended for Locke. But I'm still there, as far as I know," O'Quinn said. "I don't know how it's going to end for this other guy. I'm sad. I miss John Locke, poor guy. He was a pawn." O'Quinn is gearing up to play a new character when the sixth season begins next year. As for the rest of the story line, he swears he has no idea. "Your guess is honestly as good as mine is," he said. "There's going to be some confrontation that will somehow, I'm guessing, have to do with Jack or Locke or something like that. I think these guys are just setting up good and evil. It's the way Locke said in the very beginning of the show: One is light and one is dark. Two sides. I think that's what we've got."   |
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Post by Nuala on May 16, 2009 12:55:49 GMT -4
Do you think that the ending LOST banner, you kow, like reversed in colors) means something? I mean, more than the fact that mayybe they got tired from the white over black one??? |
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Post by Belle MacFarlane on May 16, 2009 13:13:33 GMT -4
Do you think that the ending LOST banner, you kow, like reversed in colors) means something? I mean, more than the fact that mayybe they got tired from the white over black one??? I think it was a flash. They were transported forward to 2007. Someone translate Richard's latin for me? *doesn't speak latin* Richard + Sledgehammer + Gun = *faints* |
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Post by Nuala on May 16, 2009 13:49:21 GMT -4
"He who will save/protect us all" Richard + Latin + sledgehammer = HAWT!!!!  and another thing: why did Jacob visited Huerley and Sayid after they returned from the Island? he visited the others pre-815 crash... byt why these two were post-815 crash??? |
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Post by Belle MacFarlane on May 16, 2009 14:24:13 GMT -4
The whole equation:
Richard + Latin + Sledgehammer + Gun + Sexy smile = OH MY ODDSMAKERS I THINK I'M GONNA DIE HE'S JUST TOO GODDAMN HOT!!!!!!!!!! *faints extremely*
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2009 15:52:29 GMT -4
Here's something I noticed and posted in another topic: Missing piece of weaving(OK, I admit: Mostly I had to see if I was getting the idea of how to link to another post on this forum.) |
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Post by bobdoc on May 16, 2009 18:09:56 GMT -4
Jacob needed the Oceanic 5 back to fulfill their purpose of going back to 1977, then get sent back to 2007 after the Incident, and after his death. Some of those characters fates were already handled just fine, but since Sayid and Hurley would be most resistant to go to 1977- and since other forces like Ben and Eloise had failed to get them back- he waited till later to take action himself.
He only needed to wait for Nadia's death to influence Sayid, since that death is the thing that kicked off his return to 1977, and his all important shooting of Ben. When that hit a roadblock, he got Illana's help. And Hurley had already refused point blank to go back, so Jacob acted then only when he really needed to. But the bigger unanswered question is why he needed Hurley to take that guitar case back, since we still didn't get that answered. |
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Post by tigerlily on May 16, 2009 19:24:06 GMT -4
But the bigger unanswered question is why he needed Hurley to take that guitar case back, since we still didn't get that answered. [/quote] I don't think the guitar case has any bigger purpose behind it other than to remind Hurley of Charlie and his sacrifice - Jacob gives Hurley the choice to go back to the island, and C's guitar is a gentle nudge for him to choose to return. |
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Post by WinZFactor on May 16, 2009 19:34:58 GMT -4
Latin translation: He who will save/protect us all ;D
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SO F-ING LAME!!! Jeeeez....
