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Post by Camille Moriarty on Jul 9, 2009 8:08:10 GMT -4
I was wondering if he colors his hair. It tends to change from very dark brown to medium ash brown. Not that it's a bad thing. I certainly color my gray...since my hair is nearly jet black and even the handful of grays I have shows. LOL I would really like to read the memoirs. I tend to avoid books with profound abuse--particularly sexual--since, as a survivor, I can be triggered by such things. But, if it's important enough that Michael has signed on for the film, then I'm definitely interested. He's so very careful about the projects he picks. Jumping Off Bridges was brilliant. I'm guessing the same will be true of Chickadee. snivellusfriend sounds like we had similar childhoods.  |
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Post by klarka on Jul 9, 2009 8:15:42 GMT -4
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Post by Edith S. Baker on Jul 9, 2009 10:41:17 GMT -4
Yes, he does wear contact lenses. He admits to it. And, you can see it in one of my screencaps, as well:  |
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Post by Edith S. Baker on Jul 9, 2009 10:48:41 GMT -4
I was wondering if he colors his hair. It tends to change from very dark brown to medium ash brown. Not that it's a bad thing. I certainly color my gray...since my hair is nearly jet black and even the handful of grays I have shows. LOL I would really like to read the memoirs. I tend to avoid books with profound abuse--particularly sexual--since, as a survivor, I can be triggered by such things. But, if it's important enough that Michael has signed on for the film, then I'm definitely interested. He's so very careful about the projects he picks. Jumping Off Bridges was brilliant. I'm guessing the same will be true of Chickadee. snivellusfriend sounds like we had similar childhoods. Interestingly, I was abused sexually by my grandfather, yet I can read books about it without being distressed. I think how my father handled the situation when he found out what was going on helped a lot. I wonder how many of us are in the same boat. I bet a good number of people have been abused. Some can and will talk about it. Others are still struggling with it. |
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Post by lostali75 on Jul 9, 2009 10:58:25 GMT -4
I was wondering if he colors his hair. It tends to change from very dark brown to medium ash brown. Not that it's a bad thing. I certainly color my gray...since my hair is nearly jet black and even the handful of grays I have shows. LOL I would really like to read the memoirs. I tend to avoid books with profound abuse--particularly sexual--since, as a survivor, I can be triggered by such things. But, if it's important enough that Michael has signed on for the film, then I'm definitely interested. He's so very careful about the projects he picks. Jumping Off Bridges was brilliant. I'm guessing the same will be true of Chickadee. snivellusfriend sounds like we had similar childhoods. Interestingly, I was abused sexually by my grandfather, yet I can read books about it without being distressed. I think how my father handled the situation when he found out what was going on helped a lot. I wonder how many of us are in the same boat. I bet a good number of people have been abused. Some can and will talk about it. Others are still struggling with it. Odd place to bring this up - I have my own thread about this on my other LOST board. searchingforangelashelton.com - I own the dvd. it's amazing and empowering to us Survivors. 1 out of every 4 women has been abused in some form or another. Let us help each other, unite in our cause and STOP the violence against children and women!!!!!!!!!!! (Angela is also on Facebook, she is on my list of friends) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2009 12:14:26 GMT -4
ash brown!! That's the word I was looking for to describe his hair. I think naturally it's a medium ash brown. And yes during the course of "Lost," I've notice his hair has gone a bit darker and "browner" I think he has hair weaves because it is thinning in the back.
Sorry didn't mean to interrupt the flow of topic. This is a good subject. It's true, Michael picks subjects in films that have some substance. Films for adults, grownups.
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Post by alyagotado2 on Jul 9, 2009 16:07:42 GMT -4
It's so funny to me how we all notice the same things. I've noticed the hair getting darker and the slight bald spot disappearing. I think he would sexy as all heck with graying hair. Love salt and pepper hair. Dying it though makes him look so much younger I imagine it helps him obtain certain roles over others....
LOVE YOU MICHAEL!!!!
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Post by snivellusfriend on Jul 10, 2009 13:10:31 GMT -4
I would really like to read the memoirs. I tend to avoid books with profound abuse--particularly sexual--since, as a survivor, I can be triggered by such things... snivellusfriend sounds like we had similar childhoods.  Interestingly, I was abused sexually by my grandfather, yet I can read books about it without being distressed. I think how my father handled the situation when he found out what was going on helped a lot. I wonder how many of us are in the same boat. I bet a good number of people have been abused. Some can and will talk about it. Others are still struggling with it. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. I'm relieved that I'm not alone. I feel different from people my age- I felt exactly like a kid living in Charles Dicken's era. I felt and feel ashamed about how I grew up, as though I had/have to hid it from other people or omit all of the bad parts of my childhood in order to make me seem normal, like everyone else. I was abused, physically and emotionally, not sexually. However, I feel that I have a lot in common with other people who have been sexually abused: I think it's the shared feeling of being helpless, a victim. Some of them were physically and emotionally abused, too and they have the same feelings that I have, too, like dislike of sex scenes on T.V. and feeling angry or insulted when people in real life laugh or joke about rape, hitting someone, etc. I grew up with the impression that all Europeans, immigrants from other countries, and people my parents' age or older, grew up abused. |
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Post by Camille Moriarty on Jul 10, 2009 23:40:17 GMT -4
You are definitely not alone! A few years ago, I had a website--called, "Saving Ophelia and Desdemona"--that was dedicated to survivors of childhood sexual abuse and domestic violence. I was horrified by the number of women and young girls I came into contact with via that site that shared a history of abuse, rape and domestic violence. I'm a trained lay counselor and I've worked with others--as a way of helping myself to heal, I suppose. The more women I meet, the more common I see this sort of ritual of abuse is. I know for a certainty every woman in my family has been abused. Every one. My own abuse began with my grandfather when I was two, and continued with a number of others. I've been raped more than once and married two abusive men. I'm lucky. I survived them all and came out of it the wiser, more gentle, more patient and empathetic for my pains. I think that is why so many of us with similar histories are so drawn to Michael. You can tell just by watching and listening to him that he is a man who would never consider striking a woman or abusing her in any manner whatsoever. Those of us who are survivors have likely dreamed all our lives of a man who would love, respect and cherish us. . .and carry around our coat and fetch our drinks.  Discovering Michael, being an admirer of his work--and of him as a person--has taught me a valuable lesson about myself, my needs and my expectations of men and relationships. If only he knew this. . .and also knew that I'm certainly not the only one who has had this personal "awakening" thanks to his gentle nature. |
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Post by silvia1 on Jul 11, 2009 10:11:14 GMT -4
Sad stories, girls...I can't imagine your suffering, especially because my family is plenty of love among grandfathers, sons, daughters, nieces... But I'm sure that here there are stories like yours. I fight against my bad health and you fight againts other things. Life is fighting. A big hug to everybody !!!  |
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Post by snivellusfriend on Jul 17, 2009 15:30:59 GMT -4
...My own abuse began with my grandfather when I was two, and continued with a number of others. I've been raped more than once and married two abusive men.  That sounds terrible; I'm sorry. That's always been my worst fear; I've thought that I wouldn't be surprised if a guy tried to rape me. I think that is why so many of us with similar histories are so drawn to Michael. You can tell just by watching and listening to him that he is a man who would never consider striking a woman or abusing her in any manner whatsoever. Those of us who are survivors have likely dreamed all our lives of a man who would love, respect and cherish us. . .and carry around our coat and fetch our drinks. Sometimes, I wonder why Michael is nice, what he does when he feels angry if he's not aggressive or doesn't swear at people, like my parents. He's only a year and a year-and-a-half younger than them, so a part of me fears that he and his ex-wife used to be like them, that they divorced because they used to shout and swear at each other. |
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Post by Camille Moriarty on Jul 17, 2009 21:56:07 GMT -4
From a psychological viewpoint, that would be out of character for Michael. He is, to use the vernacular, a Beta male. Meek, submissive, gentle in nature and non-confrontational. Which is actually a good thing. Think of the fight with Juliet when she knocks the glass of water from his hand and he actually cowers. Even though that was "acting" I would be willing to bet good money that would be his natural reaction to a similar situation in the real world. That's just how Beta men are. Again, good thing! It's the Alpha male types who are aggressive, prone to anger, driven, and can act out in inappropriate ways. It's taken me a very long time to get to the point that I would find a man like Michael attractive. Believe it or not, even in my singles ads after the divorce I would come right out and say: BETA MALES NEED NOT APPLY. DUH! Cajun men--I'm Cajun myself and both my ex-husbands were also Cajun--as a general rule are very, very passionate, quick to anger, quick to use violence to solve problems, very stubborn and dangerously jealous-minded. Obviously, since my first abusers fit this profile, I went out and dated and married the same thing, telling myself that meek men wouldn't have enough passion to keep up with me, or would be boring and lazy. DUH! I was falling right back into that behavior pattern that put me with inappropriate, aggressive and violent men time and again. The sad fact about growing up abuses is that it socializes you to a certain standard in your mates. A bad standard. Michael's meekness, his admitted obsessive-compulsive quirks (doing dishes and laundry helps him feel calm, he says), his humorous, non-threatening manner now seem like manna from heaven to me. It's a lesson those of us who are survivors should take to heart and remember. We DO deserve and should seek out mates who have these personality traits. What would have, even as little as a year ago, made him of no interest to me whatsoever, now makes him like a pearl of great prices in my eyes. The hardest part about him being cast as a pedophile in Chickadee will be to not associate those acts with him in my subconscious, since my first abusers were pedophiles. So, I hope he's a lawyer or some other supporting character and not the actual abuser. I don't ever want to associate this man with what's been done to me in the past. I think those of us who are survivors need to give each other a huge pat on the back for rounding that corner and finding an appropriate man attractive and desirable! That's a huge step for all of us!  |
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Post by alyagotado2 on Jul 17, 2009 22:41:23 GMT -4
Wow great reading. Made me love Michael even more. Yea the alpha type can get very very old.
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Post by greenleaf on Jul 19, 2009 11:56:14 GMT -4
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I completely agree with your psychological characteristic of Michael. Right point of view.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2009 15:40:03 GMT -4
I realize that a role is a role and it shouldn't be construed to apply to the actor. But the image of a pedophile is so vile to me that even though I KNOW the actor is simply playing a role, it sort sticks in my mind. I can't get the image of Ted Danson playing the incestuous father in TV movie "Something About Amelia." (Even the title of that movie is repugnant. It implies that Amelia did something to make her father behave that way.) Anyway, as much as I would KNOW it doesn't apply to Michael, it would sort of bother me a bit. Just as it would if he played someone like Hitler. I guess in the end it depends on how it's handled and how the actor handled it. (BTW, I think Danson did OK on the role, nor do I think of him that way, but it's still one of his performances that I recall and not in a good way.) The previous pedophile role Michael played was "Without A Trace." A lot happened in a short amount of time so you didn't have time to dwell on it, I suppose.
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That sounds terrible; I'm sorry. That's always been my worst fear; I've thought that I wouldn't be surprised if a guy tried to rape me.
