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Post by mooncove on Oct 5, 2008 6:17:53 GMT -4
My dad was a big Woody Allen fan when I was a kid; I don't know if he still is, but I never liked Woody Allen's movies either ... except for one, I think, but it was so long ago; it might have been Play It Again, Sam. But ever since the Sun-Yi thing, I find him a bit icky. So I have no interest in this film (pretty faces of the moment getting it on) whatsoever.
About the make-up and pretty actors thing ... I think Michael Emerson is very handsome, although I know he doesn't look like a typical Hollywood star. I find all those "pretty" people with their perky little noses and straight, neon-white teeth boring, and I agree, a lot of them are cast for their looks first, and then some of them learn how to act. (For example, I think Evangeline Lilly is a good actress, but everybody knows she was cast on LOST for her looks! They just lucked out that she could act.) That's probably the reason so few of my favorite actors are American; most of them are like Michael and actually went to acting school, did their time on the stage, worked hard to get where they are, and haven't had cosmetic surgery.
I don't like a lot of make-up either. It looks so unnatural. (OK, one exception: In certain cases guyliner can be hot!) When I saw how much handsomer Michael is in person, it occurred to me that it must be because he's wearing make-up on TV, like foundation or something. He looked so much more real and natural in person--absolutely gorgeous, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2008 17:32:26 GMT -4
I'm totally with you, Mooncove et al, on the pretty actors thing. It's a superficiality that's bad for our society. Lots of people are beginning to expect that in others and that's actually psychologically damaging. Sorry, most people aren't born that way. A lot of those actors and actresses have had work done on their teeth, noses, ears, chins chiseled or filled, what-not to look that way, but that's something they'll never tell. It's such a sham. In addition the photos are retouched and reworked so that blemishes and wrinkles are removed, legs are lengthened, faces and trunks narrowed, noses cropped, ears trimmed, hair re-colored.
It sounds so cliche but it's true: Beauty comes from within. I've seen lots of physically attractive people who aren't beautiful because their inner spirit isn't beautiful or it's just flat, so they look boring and even horrible. And I know people who would be considered ugly but their inner spirit is so beautiful the ugliness become attractive. The inner quality has to be there first. But sad to say, a lot of people don't see the inner spirit, they accept the outer package as the real thing.
All that said, I think Michael is physically attractive. His features are well-proportioned but there is enough variance — flaws, by some people's definition — to make him look distinctive. But I think his inner spirit is what really makes the difference. It suggests that he has a rich and complex inner life.
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Post by greenleaf on Feb 20, 2009 10:24:51 GMT -4
Carrie's role reminded me exactly of Michael's role in 'Unfaithful,' short and unmemorable
For a long time I have noticed when Michael and Carrie speak about her roles they like to mention names of known actors and directors at or with which Carrie was shot. After that I think: WOW! Probably, she has some important role in this film! But when I see these movies I watch that her roles have really microscopic size and value for film as a whole.
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Post by Edith S. Baker on Feb 20, 2009 18:12:51 GMT -4
I borrowed the film. Earlier, I'd judged the film negatively based on the cast's pretty looks and the plot seemingly being all about sex (it is), but I was willing to ignore these things, curious to see what Spain looked like and Carrie's role and decided to give it a chance. I couldn't believe that the retail price was $30! There weren't any extra special features at all, only the movie! Normally, for that price, other DVD's include special features, but I'm guessing it's that expensive because it was shot in Spain. The characters weren't as bad (predictable) as I'd thought they'd be, but I definetely wouldn't rank it in the category of, "Oh my God, you have to see this movie (sometime in your life because it's that amazing/beautiful/inspiring!") It's just okay to watch (if you don't have anything else to do and are curious to see Spain.) Carrie's role reminded me exactly of Michael's role in 'Unfaithful,' short and unmemorable, as though her character (and her character's husband) might as well have not been in the film at all. (She had 2 scenes near the end of the film, too, a few lines, played a housewife.) I guess she played her part well, according to the script; Characters that are gossipy housewives just aren't my cup of tea. I prefer complex characters/storylines. If I remember correctly, Penelope Cruz was nominated for an Oscar for her role this film? I now understand why; Out of all of the other actors in this movie, her acting felt the most real, emotional and strongest to me. Kudos to her. I'm confused about what the film's moral was, what Woody Allen was trying to say at the end of the film, that the characters should've chosen to change their lives and would've been happier living in a new way or whether everything that they did that summer was just a fling, that they'd made a mistake and let their emotions overrule their minds, being excited about being in a different country, that they hadn't thought of reality until the end of their stay and did the right thing by going back to their former lives. For me, the best part was seeing Spain, a bit of the landscape and the architecture; I didn't expect the restuarants, streets, shrubbery, etc. to look so different from the U.S and as nice as it did. Did you see the film, Silvia? Does all of Spain look like that or did the film only show the nicest neighborhoods/ tourist attractions in Barcelona? I have not seen this movie, but I'd thought that I'd alert you that Woody Allen does not write dialogues. Most of the dialogues in his movies are ad-libbed. He gives the actors an outline and a tiny bit of an idea where he thinks the dialogue should go. This technique sometimes makes the movie slow moving.
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Post by silvia1 on Feb 20, 2009 18:34:43 GMT -4
Sorry, but I haven't seen the film. I'm sure that I will rent it in DVD soon. I don't like P. Cruz, she's Spanish as well, but for me, she's not a good actress. And I don't like S.Johansson too...perhaps for these reasons, I haven't seen the film But I know that my city is filmed very beautiful, only showing the nice, clean and polite side. And it's obviously that we have bad things, like all cities all over the world. About the plot, I think that it's very, very, very topic. I don't like it at all...but, when I will see it, perhaps I will change my mind a little bit.
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Post by dkiddo on May 20, 2009 14:01:28 GMT -4
I liked this movie, Penelope Cruz deserved the Oscar, and it's always nice to see Javier Bardem hehehe but honestly, I don't know who Carrie was...
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Post by lostali75 on May 20, 2009 14:05:12 GMT -4
I liked this movie, Penelope Cruz deserved the Oscar, and it's always nice to see Javier Bardem hehehe but honestly, I don't know who Carrie was... it was so quick that she was there and then gone, I don't remember after seeing too :(that was the FIRST Woody Allen film I'd ever seen. I personally don't like the man so I won't watch his stuff. But I really like all the actors in this one so I watched, 'cause of hubby.
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Post by dkiddo on May 20, 2009 15:49:18 GMT -4
LOL I don't like Woody Allen either and this is the only movie I've seen of him.. I do want to see Match Point though, I've heard good comments about it.
So anyways, which one was Carrie??
I also watched Doubt (I LOVE MERYL STREEP!!!) and I also heard she was in it... so who was she???
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Post by dkiddo on May 20, 2009 21:59:19 GMT -4
aaaahhhhh!!!!! thanks!!!! I had no idea, but then again when I watched those movies I wasn't into Michael, so I had no idea who Carrie was
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