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Post by lostali75 on Jul 2, 2009 17:28:49 GMT -4
That just seems so invasive to me.  If I were Michael, I'd like to do things like browse the bookstore and go see a movie without the whole world knowing and gossiping about it! I guess the cool thing is about the tweets I've read, is that it doesn't say what movie or what store or anything. So, it keeps it vague I guess  |
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Post by tigerlily on Jul 2, 2009 18:13:54 GMT -4
That's a bit better, I guess. I totally understand the other side of the coin as well - if I saw Michael at my local bookshop I would be screaming it to the world!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2009 2:25:44 GMT -4
That's a bit better, I guess. I totally understand the other side of the coin as well - if I saw Michael at my local bookshop I would be screaming it to the world!!! I would be totally tweeting that, trying to grab a pic. Doing a total fan spaz. Here's the thing. Michael's fame has already crossed that line so that he really can't expect people to just leave him alone. Luckily, most people who spot him think it's cool and move on. They're not being over the top, for the most part. He doesn't get mobbed, girls aren't lifting their blouses (at least I don't think they are). He still takes the subway. I think a lot of how he conducts himself in public works toward keeping things sane. I think it's a genuine recognition of an enormous talent, and an appreciation that that talent doesn't think he's above the rest of humanity. I think that's what people like. Heck, on Lostpedia, he is far and away judged the best actor. So that's good. I'm glad he's getting some of that. So many actors like him pass through, get steady work, but never get the recognition they deserve. A couple years after "Lost," if he doesn't continue in the popular vein, he's not going to be getting the interviews or the photo spreads he's getting now. I think he's smart enough to realize that this too — for all that's good and bad about it — shall pass. He's a grownup. |
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Post by Camille Moriarty on Jul 3, 2009 6:37:28 GMT -4
I'm trying to get photos of the event, with permission to post them on my blog. Even private ones from my sources, if that's at all possible. I will let y'all know if I'm successful. I've also made inquiries about getting a copy of the video they made for the SAG library, or at least a snippet. I'm not really holding my breath on this since I'm not SAG. I'm WUA--not even WGA, yet--so I'm outside the actor loop. They also know I'm a journalist (since I had to admit that in order to request a press kit/interview), so I'm expecting a big "NO." But keep your fingers crossed. My contacts have been very helpful thus far.  |
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Post by silvia1 on Jul 3, 2009 10:55:54 GMT -4
Thank you Tigerlily. It's very difficult because I started with English in the year 2001, not when I was a children or a young girl.
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Post by rage on Jul 3, 2009 12:07:22 GMT -4
Camille Moriarty, let's hope that you'll succeed. It would be very nice to have a glance at this event from within, to read somebody's reviews/watch vids and feel the excitement straight away as if you were there
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Post by Camille Moriarty on Jul 4, 2009 12:30:25 GMT -4
Still waiting on a response from SAG on my request. Will let everyone know when I hear something more.
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Post by Camille Moriarty on Jul 6, 2009 18:42:51 GMT -4
He wasn't even able to use the restroom at the SAG event without someone announcing it to the whole world.
Exactly right! I was deeply offended by that tweet--that was retweeted several times, unfortunately--from a member of SAG who was in attendance. Apparently nothing is sacred. I'm not surprised at all that he was, according to my source, "very coy" regarding any question outside his take on acting as a craft. He avoided being pinned down on any aspect of future projects, including the film, Chickadee.
He's learning the hard lesson that fame is costly, and costly in all manner of ways. No wonder he's fearful of the Internet. I don't blame him at all for avoiding it like the plague.
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Post by alyagotado on Jul 6, 2009 22:35:36 GMT -4
I saw that tweet also. Remember not to believe everything you read, especially on Twitter. Why would a place invite someone to speak at an event and then the only place that person can use the restroom is amongst all the people who came to see him or her. I doubt it. I think the guy just said that to turn on his girlfriend or something. I guess I agree that twitter can be invasive but everyone so far as been very kind and respectful regarding Michael. Only positive comments and excitement over seeing him. It would bother me alot if people were being disrespectful or getting personal but so far it all has been quite harmless. You can tell if Michael is in NY or LA by watching the tweets. That's kinda fun.  "LOVE YOU MICHAEL!" |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2009 3:26:10 GMT -4
Believe it or not some people don't think that tweeting about who you saw in a bathroom is an invasion of privacy. There are people who don't feel there are any boundaries. And as sure as dogs will roll in you-know-what, those people will open their mouth with about the same result. That tweet was deffo in the category of TMI, and I think alyagotado has a good point, probably not true.
I like Twitter for the legitimate news about "Lost," Michael and the various other issues I'm interested in. There is offensive stuff, but I just ignore or block. But the legit news has outweighed the bad. Heck, I learned about Sarah Palin and Michael Jackson through Twitter. I follow the astronauts going on the their shuttle mission. And I'll rely on it for tidbits out of ComicCon.
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Post by Camille Moriarty on Jul 7, 2009 6:35:53 GMT -4
I hope you're right and it's not true. Either way, it was an incredibly tacky thing to tweet--and get retweeted. This was a casual event, however, so the bathroom incident could very well be true. This is his union and the educational foundation that it supports. So, it's not like a personal appearance with the public where he's treated like a celebrity. He's a journeyman craftsman to the SAG folks. It's sort of the equivalent of when a well-known journalist speaks at a Society of Professional Journalist event, or if, say Nelson DeMille spoke at a Writer's Union of America gathering. At things like this we're all standing around with the person chatting like any other day on the job. Oh, and he also stayed around afterward and chatted with and took pictures with a number of the folks. Typical Michael. He's amazingly kind and thoughtful! |
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Post by tigerlily on Jul 7, 2009 10:41:26 GMT -4
Believe it or not some people don't think that tweeting about who you saw in a bathroom is an invasion of privacy. There are people who don't feel there are any boundaries. This is what really worries me, about where technology and social inter-netting (did I just invent a new verb?  ) are heading. It's really scary, this lack of boundaries. There is a complete lack of respect and a disconnection from the most fundamental human courtesy. I thought the physical paparazzi circus was getting bad, but this virtual stalking seems equally scary to me. Who really wants this level of attention and this lifestyle? What happened to the respectful 'journalist agreements' ala the understanding that the media would stay away from Princes Harry and William while growing up, or the 'gentleman's agreement' that kept quiet on JFK's personal affairs? As a society we are spiraling out of control. All of a sudden everybody is a damn paparazzo. I just hate it, and I especially hate it when it involves Michael, who comes across as an incredibly respectful and genial person. I worry that he will be burned by all this disrespectful attention. Sorry, vent over.  |
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Post by lostali75 on Jul 7, 2009 11:00:35 GMT -4
Believe it or not some people don't think that tweeting about who you saw in a bathroom is an invasion of privacy. There are people who don't feel there are any boundaries. This is what really worries me, about where technology and social inter-netting (did I just invent a new verb? ) are heading. It's really scary, this lack of boundaries. There is a complete lack of respect and a disconnection from the most fundamental human courtesy. I thought the physical paparazzi circus was getting bad, but this virtual stalking seems equally scary to me. Who really wants this level of attention and this lifestyle? What happened to the respectful 'journalist agreements' ala the understanding that the media would stay away from Princes Harry and William while growing up, or the 'gentleman's agreement' that kept quiet on JFK's personal affairs? As a society we are spiraling out of control. All of a sudden everybody is a damn paparazzo. I just hate it, and I especially hate it when it involves Michael, who comes across as an incredibly respectful and genial person. I worry that he will be burned by all this disrespectful attention. Sorry, vent over. I agree with you TigerL |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2009 15:39:38 GMT -4
Believe it or not some people don't think that tweeting about who you saw in a bathroom is an invasion of privacy. There are people who don't feel there are any boundaries. This is what really worries me, about where technology and social inter-netting (did I just invent a new verb? ) are heading. It's really scary, this lack of boundaries. There is a complete lack of respect and a disconnection from the most fundamental human courtesy. I thought the physical paparazzi circus was getting bad, but this virtual stalking seems equally scary to me. Who really wants this level of attention and this lifestyle? What happened to the respectful 'journalist agreements' ala the understanding that the media would stay away from Princes Harry and William while growing up, or the 'gentleman's agreement' that kept quiet on JFK's personal affairs? As a society we are spiraling out of control. All of a sudden everybody is a damn paparazzo. I just hate it, and I especially hate it when it involves Michael, who comes across as an incredibly respectful and genial person. I worry that he will be burned by all this disrespectful attention. Sorry, vent over. We are changing as a society, and I see how it is evolving from people my age who are still having trouble accepting that a business can find out about you (married, age, employment, criminal offenses) to younger people than me who are generally OK with making connections online to very young adults and teenagers who are quite comfortable with a lack of privacy. Being videotaped in a store doesn't bother them as much as it does someone of my generation (and we are all videotaped, as we know). As for all the secrets of the famous and powerful that journalists kept from the public, well, I guess the question is do you want to know that now, while the man or woman is alive, and have a more realistic understanding of who they are or do you want to wait until after they're dead and be disabused of your idealistic image of your hero. I personally go with the former. I am better able to deal with a president knowing he had oral sex with an intern than having to realize that all along he was shagging women left and right behind the scenes while portraying himself as a good family man. Maybe FDR would have been shunned if people knew he was carried about from place to place. Or maybe we would have become more tolerant sooner of people with limited physical capabilities. Just my two cents on the matter. *gets off soapbox* |
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Post by tigerlily on Jul 7, 2009 17:00:17 GMT -4
No, I actually agree with you Mythic regarding presidential affairs, maybe JFK wasn't the best example to use - but my point is that the media kept their distance and allowed public people some measure of respect and privacy. Wills and Harry are the better example for that.
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If I were Michael, I'd like to do things like browse the bookstore and go see a movie without the whole world knowing and gossiping about it!
