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Post by bobdoc on May 27, 2010 11:53:43 GMT -4
Of course, DHARMAville is pretty run down now - although the inside of Ben's house still looked presentable, despite now having Zoe and Widmore's corpses. So maybe the first people Hurley invites to the island should be carpenters.
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Post by greenleaf on May 27, 2010 13:44:09 GMT -4
Finally, I watched the ending of Lost. I am disappointed.
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Post by tigerlily on May 27, 2010 14:02:04 GMT -4
Finally, I watched the ending of Lost. I am disappointed. awww I'm so sorry to hear it luv.
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Post by tigerlily on May 27, 2010 14:20:31 GMT -4
I'm still going through this entire conversation and drafting my responses, but I have to jump in at this point and say this: calling the sideways world "purgatory" is driving me mad!!! It isn't a purgatory; purgatory is a place of punishment, and that's not what we saw in the sideways world. What we saw was a limbo, as I've written elsewhere, "a world between worlds, an antechamber to the afterlife."
Purgatory is a (now defunct) Christian concept, but the ending did not give us a purely Christian afterlife - it is an afterlife intended for all faiths. The writers created their own afterlife conception that should be regarded as distinct from the Christian purgatory. It's more of a holding tank for these connected souls to awaken and find each other again. Christian terminology simply does not apply to this concept, and especially the torments (because it IS a place of torment) of purgatory.
There. Said it. Feel better now!! More responses to come...
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Post by Edith S. Baker on May 27, 2010 14:52:17 GMT -4
I'm still going through this entire conversation and drafting my responses, but I have to jump in at this point and say this: calling the sideways world "purgatory" is driving me mad!!! It isn't a purgatory; purgatory is a place of punishment, and that's not what we saw in the sideways world. What we saw was a limbo, as I've written elsewhere, "a world between worlds, an antechamber to the afterlife." Purgatory is a (now defunct) Christian concept, but the ending did not give us a purely Christian afterlife - it is an afterlife intended for all faiths. The writers created their own afterlife conception that should be regarded as distinct from the Christian purgatory. It's more of a holding tank for these connected souls to awaken and find each other again. Christian terminology simply does not apply to this concept, and especially the torments (because it IS a place of torment) of purgatory. There. Said it. Feel better now!! More responses to come... I call the sideways world The Rainbow Bridge. How about that? is anybody on the board not aware of the Rainbow Bridge concept?
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Post by tigerlily on May 27, 2010 15:07:36 GMT -4
I've heard of the Rainbow Bridge, but don't really know what it is. I have been calling the Sideways world "Looking Glass World," and whether or not it fits in the end I'm still fan of it!
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Post by Edith S. Baker on May 27, 2010 16:22:24 GMT -4
I've heard of the Rainbow Bridge, but don't really know what it is. I have been calling the Sideways world "Looking Glass World," and whether or not it fits in the end I'm still fan of it! There's a 'folk lore" that says that when an animal dies, he or she awaits for his or her special person by the Rainbow Bridge. When the special person dies, they cross the bridge together. Here's the poem it is based on: Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge. When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable. All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor; those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind. They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent; His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster. You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart. Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together....
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Post by tigerlily on May 27, 2010 16:27:28 GMT -4
Awwww Edith, that made me teary...gonna go kiss my dog now!! Yes, that definitely fits the bill!
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Post by Edith S. Baker on May 27, 2010 16:29:52 GMT -4
Awwww Edith, that made me teary...gonna go kiss my dog now!! Yes, that definitely fits the bill! I should have warned you that it causes tears. I always cry when I see that poem. I often think about my spices and how they are awaiting for me at the Bridge.
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Post by Edith S. Baker on May 27, 2010 16:36:48 GMT -4
And this one will bring on the Jears, Tears, and Flood the Nile: Rescuer's Rainbow Bridge Unlike most days at Rainbow Bridge, this day dawned cold and gray, damp as a swamp and as dismal as could be imagined. All of the recent arrivals had no idea what to think, as they had never experienced a day like this before. But the animals who had been waiting for their beloved people knew exactly what was going on and started to gather at the pathway leading to The Bridge to watch It wasn't long before an elderly animal came into view, head hung low and tail dragging. The other animals, the ones who had been there for a while, knew what his story was right away, for they had seen this happen far too often. He approached slowly, obviously in great emotional pain, but with no sign of injury or illness. Unlike all of the other animals waiting at The Bridge, this animal had not been restored to youth and made healthy and vigorous again. As he walked toward The Bridge, he watched all of the other animals watching him. He knew he was out of place here and the sooner he could cross over, the happier he would be. But, alas, as he approached The Bridge, his way was barred by the appearance of an Angel who apologized, but told him that he would not be able to pass. Only those animals who were with their people could pass over Rainbow Bridge. With no place else to turn to, the elderly animal turned towards the fields before The Bridge and saw a group of other animals like himself, also elderly and infirm. They weren't playing, but rather simply lying on the green grass, forlornly staring out at the pathway leading to The Bridge. And so, he took his place among them, watching the pathway and waiting. One of the newest arrivals at The Bridge didn't understand what he had just witnessed and asked one of the animals that had been there for awhile to explain it to him. "You see, that poor animal was a rescue. He was turned in to rescue just as you see him now, an older animal with his fur graying and his eyes clouding. He never made it out of rescue and passed on with only the love of his rescuer to comfort him as he left his earthly existence. Because he had no family to give his love to, he has no one to escort him across The Bridge." The first animal thought about this for a minute and then asked, "So what will happen now?" As he was about to receive his answer, the clouds suddenly parted and the gloom lifted. Approaching The Bridge could be seen a single person and among the older animals, a whole group was suddenly bathed in a golden light and they were all young and healthy again, just as they were in the prime of life. "Watch, and see.", said the second animal. A second group of animals from those waiting came to the pathway and bowed low as the person neared. At each bowed head, the person offered a pat on the head or a scratch behind the ears. The newly restored animals fell into line and followed him towards The Bridge. They all crossed The Bridge together. "What happened?" "That was a rescuer. The animals you saw bowing in respect were those who found new homes because of her work. They will cross when their new families arrive. Those you saw restored were those who never found homes. When a rescuer arrives, they are allowed to perform one, final act of rescue. They are allowed to escort those poor animals that they couldn't place on earth across The Rainbow Bridge." "I think I like rescuers", said the first animal. "So does GOD", was the reply.
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Post by bobdoc on May 27, 2010 18:28:05 GMT -4
I think I remember you talking about this when one of your pets died. It probably is the best analogy for the whole ending - after all, I figure that no matter how long and well Kate, Claire, Sawyer, Desmond, Hurley and Ben lived, their one regret was not sharing the rest of their lives with those they lost. Plus, Jack's one regret was having to give up Kate and all his friends so he could fulfill his destiny. That's why they needed to go to sideways time too, along with those who died well before them - so they could finally cross that bridge together.
But it is ironic that they all had to be together at the end, since for the vast majority of this show, they were apart and split into groups for one reason or another.
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Post by tigerlily on May 27, 2010 21:47:46 GMT -4
awww Edith you're tearing me up!!! These are so lovely! Bobdoc, good point about the characters being separated much of the time. It gives even more meaning to an already powerful reunion scene.
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Post by siberius on May 28, 2010 13:01:07 GMT -4
Live alone, die together...
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Post by gungrave on May 28, 2010 13:24:10 GMT -4
Live alone, die together... oh..it is really awesome..i loved it.. live alone die together.. yeah it's mean is really super.. ;D ;D ;D i loved!
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Post by tigerlily on May 28, 2010 14:55:23 GMT -4
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