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Post by Edith S. Baker on Feb 10, 2007 15:00:57 GMT -4
;D I keep freezing the shot of him lying on the table after the surgery, in the "recovery" area, with the band-aid on his back so I can get a good look at his bod!!!! One thing I wonder though is in an interview recently that I read he said that both he and his stunt double were very sore after shooting the scenes where he is strapped to the operating table so do you think that is him or his double in the scene? Can you remember where the article was from? I'd like to read it. You can read it here: spicedogs.livejournal.com/63343.html |
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Post by lovebenry on Feb 10, 2007 23:36:13 GMT -4
A great episode. Spectacular. I probably don't have much new to add, mainly becuase everyone here already knows that BEN IS THE MAN!!!!! And even though he didn't move the entire episode he was completely captivating and awesome. Oh, how I love him. I am SO excited for the rest of the season.
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Post by Maeve on Feb 11, 2007 1:48:36 GMT -4
Thank you! Can't keep up with all the interviews he's done lately. I sort of thought ME's arms had better definition than his ("younger and more physically fit") body double. You know comparing Michael's arms (with his face visible) to the body double's arms (the body with no face visible). Or is that just my imagination? |
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Post by amidala64 on Feb 11, 2007 4:49:58 GMT -4
Question: when he says, "Hey... that's not helping anything" on the operating table, what is he referring to? He was referring to Tom's suspicion and subsequent sending away of Juliet. Fighting amongst themselves was not going to help him stay alive. Persueding Jack to finish the surgery was the priority. It's also a sly reference to the film 'Empire Strikes Back' when Chewbacca gets violent when they're about to carbon freeze Han Solo. Han tells Chewie that it's not helping. Be cool honey bunny and take care of Princess Leia. On a different topic from this thread.. Someone asked: "Who the hell is Jacob!!!?? Wouldn't it be wierd if they twist it that Alex's dad is really Jacob, not Ben?" Jacob is dead, I think. In the hypno room where they were holding Carl there were images and phrases projected on the giant screen. One of them said, "God loves you as he loved Jacob" implying that Jacob is not with them. |
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Post by kiagary on Feb 11, 2007 9:26:15 GMT -4
Jacob is dead, I think. In the hypno room where they were holding Carl there were images and phrases projected on the giant screen. One of them said, "God loves you as he loved Jacob" implying that Jacob is not with them. Yes, I noticed that too! Here's the sentence:  There's a lot of mistery floating around this Jacob.. I really waana know something more!? ;D ------------------------BEN IS THE BEST!!!-------------------------------- -Hugs!_ |
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Post by katm0855 on Feb 11, 2007 11:20:08 GMT -4
That's a good catch. But what about this, Jacob gave them lists. What if only a certain number of people were privy to knowing that he was alive but the rest were told a different story. What if the Others tried to turn him into a hero or some form of a martyr to help their cause?
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Post by Edith S. Baker on Feb 11, 2007 13:38:31 GMT -4
That's a good catch. But what about this, Jacob gave them lists. What if only a certain number of people were privy to knowing that he was alive but the rest were told a different story. What if the Others tried to turn him into a hero or some form of a martyr to help their cause? Maybe Jacob is dead, but Ben tries to keep his entity alive. When the plane crashed, he asked both Ethan and Ben to go and get a list of people. The list was presented to Ben, who in turn presented it to the rest of the Others. Later on, after the list was presented and both Goodwin and Ethan were dead, Ben found out that there was a surgeon among the castaways. (Maybe he found out about Jack through Walt.) Anyway, now Ben had a dilemma. He found out that there was a surgeon on the other side of the island. Island protocol did not allow him to ask Jack to do the operation. Jack must want to do the operation. (Ben: I want you to want to do the operation, Jack.) So, Ben has to get Jack and bring him back to other side of the island and begin the brainwashing stage of making Jack want to do the surgery. Unfortunately, Danny is not high up in the hierarchy. He doesn't know that Jacob is dead. All he knows is that the original list did not have Jack in it. What do you guys think? |
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Post by henryrocks on Feb 11, 2007 14:44:05 GMT -4
Ohmigosh - I was just reading esbaker's site, and she had this to say:
"At the Fuselage, someone who claims to be able to read lips, said that Ben told Juliet that he was driving the bus. Interesting, If it is true, the next episodes with Ben and Juliet should be doozies. )
(I'm able to lip read and he said, "Juliet, I was the one driving the bus.")"
Huh. So yet another lie from Ben - either about his having always lived on the island, or having been the busdriver. I'm glad someone was actually able to lipread this!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2007 16:39:22 GMT -4
Ohmigosh - I was just reading esbaker's site, and she had this to say:
"At the Fuselage, someone who claims to be able to read lips, said that Ben … said, "Juliet, I was the one driving the bus.")"
[/size] Well, well, that would be an amazing bit of info, if true. Wouldn't that be amazing. Ben might be coming soon to a town near you! On the other point, God loved (past tense) Jacob. Maybe it's not that Jacob is dead, but that he's fallen out of grace with the "god" of Otherville (a DI founder who went rogue?). If so, this makes the Others a rebel or breakaway group and perhaps Danny was a plant (of the nonbiological variety) or traitor. Again pure speculation. |
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Post by Edith S. Baker on Feb 11, 2007 16:47:40 GMT -4
Ohmigosh - I was just reading esbaker's site, and she had this to say:
"At the Fuselage, someone who claims to be able to read lips, said that Ben … said, "Juliet, I was the one driving the bus.")"
[/size] Well, well, that would be an amazing bit of info, if true. Wouldn't that be amazing. Ben might be coming soon to a town near you! On the other point, God loved (past tense) Jacob. Maybe it's not that Jacob is dead, but that he's fallen out of grace with the "god" of Otherville (a DI founder who went rogue?). If so, this makes the Others a rebel or breakaway group and perhaps Danny was a plant (of the nonbiological variety) or traitor. Again pure speculation. [/quote] How would that make Danny a rebel or a traitor? He followed the rules to a T. Besides, I also read somewhere that the others subscribed to the notion of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. This would explain Danny's rages. |
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Post by katm0855 on Feb 11, 2007 16:57:32 GMT -4
If the whole driving the bus thing is true, I wonder how this will effect Juliet? Will this cause her to feel like she was in debt to him? Could this be another mind game to keep her on his side? Or is it the actual truth that she didn't know and now she feels closer?
Hurry up Wednesday!!!!
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Post by rednymph234 on Feb 11, 2007 21:55:54 GMT -4
If the Bus driving thing is true, how? How did Ben pull it off?
Also, look up on wikipedia. In the bible, a man named Ben was THE Jacob's son. you know....Jacob from Jacob and Isaac (I think that is right).
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Post by katm0855 on Feb 11, 2007 23:37:06 GMT -4
Yeah, in the last podcast, Damon and Carlton were talking about it and the bible. They definitely lead us to believe it was down that road.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2007 3:57:42 GMT -4
How would that make Danny a rebel or a traitor? He followed the rules to a T. Besides, I also read somewhere that the others subscribed to the notion of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. This would explain Danny's rages. [/size][/quote] When Danny went rogue, he was going on about Jacob's list. If Jacob is dead as some suggest, how did he put together a list? It seems to me Jacob is alive and he compiled a list that the Other rebels (Danny and Juliet and whoever else who plot to take control from Ben) regard as important as Ben's priorities or more so. Clearly Danny was angry about losing Colleen, but I have the sense he was acting outside the blessing of the Others. |
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Post by silenteyes on Feb 12, 2007 7:54:41 GMT -4
This episode aired last night in the UK so I've just about caught up! I tried not to read this thread before I saw the episode but I just couldn't help take a peek...
It was interesting to see Juliet so vulnerable in her flashback. It would be so crazy if Ben really was the one driving the bus. I did wonder whether Michael was speaking real words in that part, or whether he was mumbling nonsense just to make his lips move. Interesting...
I really laughed when one of the Others was upstairs with Jack looking over Ben and Juliet in the operating theatre and he casually said - "I'm Tom by the way". Haha! The look on Jack's face was priceless!
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