Post by Edith S. Baker on Feb 17, 2007 17:48:01 GMT -4
maeve said:
katm0855 said:
I guess I may have perceived it one way than the other. I still think there was a line in there that meant something else. But I'll have to go back and see. I took it as what he was doing was important.Ok I've had a chance to watch it again. And again. And...well you get the idea. I missed the little part you are talking about I think. That takes place in the antique shop when Hawking becomes almost angry at Desmond for not doing what he is suppose to be doing-breaking up with Pen and getting to the island so he can turn the key. She also says they will all die if he doesn't turn the key. (Who are "they"?)
When that doesn't work she switches tactics. She is cruel outside with all her fake sympathy and pushing the button is the only great thing you will ever due talk. And I thought Ben was manipulative! She left him feeling he had no free choice in the matter. When a person really has no choice in a matter there is no need to convince them to do it. Then the minute he decided to change his fate he was yanked right back to the island.
Free will versus fate (destiny) was the theme of the episode and I think the theme of the whole series. Obviously the answer to what happened in this episode is to be found Hawking's book and it involves black holes and time
*A Brief History of Time, opened to the chapter on black holes, was shown in last week's episode, the woman in the antique store's name was Hawking
*All the clocks in the antique store stand for time.
*The backward audio in last week's episode was "only fools are enslaved by time and space".
*Mittelos is an anagram of "Lost Time"
*Juliet arrived on the island around the same time a black hole was found in our universe.
Questions for the class.
Please answer in full sentences for full credit. 
So we have time and black holes. What does it mean?
Did the force from the implosion give the island enough power to transport Des back in time to teach him a lesson? What lesson? Is Des able to "flash" backward in time to change what happens (Charlie's dying)? Or does Des just see a vision in his head? Why are the flashes always about Charlie? Charlie was the only Lostie in his flashback. Are they connected in some way?
Is time looping or folding back on itself in some way?
Is the island caught in a time loop or is Desmond the loop? A loop somehow initiated by the implosion?
Is the hero of Lost Jack or Desmond?
Is it Jack and Kate in the cave (Adam and Eve) or is it Des and Pen?
I think Juliet and Desmond arrived on 9/11/01. The math (Julliet's and Desmond's) works out that way.
