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Post by Edith S. Baker on Mar 10, 2010 19:03:33 GMT -4
I`m SO afraid of watching it. . . the last Ben-centric ever. . . i will miss Ben... I will miss him so much. . . Don't be afraid. It's an excellent episode.
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Post by gem10 on Mar 10, 2010 19:47:06 GMT -4
What an episode! I really felt for Ben more than ever. The ending - doesn't look good for Ben now does it?
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Post by bobdoc on Mar 10, 2010 19:50:32 GMT -4
Michael spilled some scoop on the episode for People TV Watch, at tvwatch.people.com/2010/03/10/lost-michael-emerson-breaks-down-dr-linus/ One interesting thing he said is that he hadn't had a new showdown with Charles Widmore yet, even though he's already on his way. That could hint that they're saving it for the three part finale - which could suggest that's how Ben will save the day at the end, and/or die doing it.
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Post by Irina-cat lover on Mar 10, 2010 20:10:11 GMT -4
Thank you, Michael Emerson, for the possibility to enjoy your God-given talent .
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Post by Irina-cat lover on Mar 10, 2010 20:37:42 GMT -4
The whole episode was great. Ben, being so imbued with a sense of responsibility for children and dutiful to his dad. . . His touching devotion to the history and the history club, which only 5 students attend. . . his tender care for Alex and `What matters` scene . . .all those things can`t leave even the hardened heart indifferent and unsympathetic towards him. . .
I`m crying and trembling all over..
The music in the end, when Richard, Hurley and Jack showed up was great!
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Post by bobdoc on Mar 10, 2010 22:04:30 GMT -4
if Jacob's touch makes someone unable to die for a long time - like it did for Richard and the candidates - then maybe the fact that Jacob grabbed Ben as he died is a good sign for Ben. But maybe him dying, and probably being disappointed in Ben, didn't let Jacob transfer his gift to him.
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Post by melissaq9 on Mar 10, 2010 23:19:22 GMT -4
I just watched the clip from the end again and have tears in my eyes. Such a different side of Ben, sure to get that Emmy nom.
I was so darn proud of the off island Ben for choosing Alex. He totally redeemed himself for what happened on the island and I agree that this is his turning point. He will be a huge player in the end of it all, for the "good side".
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Post by inia on Mar 11, 2010 1:40:05 GMT -4
if Jacob's touch makes someone unable to die for a long time - like it did for Richard and the candidates - then maybe the fact that Jacob grabbed Ben as he died is a good sign for Ben. But maybe him dying, and probably being disappointed in Ben, didn't let Jacob transfer his gift to him. Wow, great idea! I hope there is a hidden meaning in that grabbing. That would be amazing, unexpected storyline. Oh, now you got me thinking how Ben could save the island and be a hero...
The episode was great from the beginning, but the Ilana-Ben scene in the jungle made it The Best Episode Ever. Whow!
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Post by lostali75 on Mar 11, 2010 9:14:53 GMT -4
Richard said - When Jacob touches you, it makes you special. I know I"m going to come off rude, but this is bothering me. EVERYONE and their mom keeps saying what special gift does so and so have now, who's gonna live forever, . I think so many people are not listening to the words. Richard is alive becasue Jacob made him that way specifically. He touched Hurley, Jack and the others to get them to the island. I don't know, something about it all is bothering me immensely. I had to get it out. It's like the question, "What was the president's name in 1980? Most people say Ronald Reagan. you'd be wrong, it was Barack Obama, his name hasn't changed since 1980. Do you see or understand what I'm saying???
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Post by dkiddo on Mar 11, 2010 11:29:58 GMT -4
here's another thing... so Jacob only by touching you makes you be sort of impervious to aging right? Well he touched Kate and Sawyer when they were children, and they are full grown ups now... So does that mean that Jacob touches and when he does, he decides what "power" is transferred?
And when did Jacob touch Michael?? I'm guessing that's why he couldn't die in S4... So does that mean that Locke wouldn't have been able to kill himself anyways?
This whole Jacob/MIB mystery is starting to bug me, as much as I loved Dr. Linus, I think it's time for some answers, and so far I only have more questions and it's starting to get annoying.[/spoilers]
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Post by Edith S. Baker on Mar 11, 2010 11:51:29 GMT -4
OK, folks, like Ali (lostali75), I am going nuts reading about these misconceptions you all have about Jacob. Jacob's touch doesn't necessarily mean agelessness. When Jacob touches somebody, it means that that person becomes special. But being specieal only means that the person becomes a candidate to replace Jacob in the event of his death. There is still a lot of things that the person must overcome to become a true candidate. We are in the midsts of learning what that is.
Now, being touched by Jacob doesn't prevent the person from getting killed, but it does prevent that person from being able to comit suicide. In other worlds, the person can be killed but can't kill him- or herself.
We saw this phenomenon with Michael. No matter how much he tried to kill himself once he was off island, he stayed alive. Only when the freighter exploded did he get killed. We also saw that evidencent with Locke. He tried to commit suicide by hanging himself and couldn't. But Ben was able to kill him. Sayid was murdered by Roger Linus. Roger shot him. Despite the fact that Sayid was a candidate, he died. The ressurected Sayid is not the blessed-by-Jacob Sayid.
I hope that this explains it to you some of the rules of the game that we were able to learn so far.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2010 11:52:19 GMT -4
Well, this board is over 1,000 fans, but Michael's admirers are myriad. "Dr. Linus" beat last week's "Sundown" in the Nielsen. No explicit evidence, but I'm guessing a certain actor, native of Iowa, had something to do with the uptick. And the critics are raving, if not foaming at the mouth, about Michael's performance. We have Vozzek in his Things I Noticed recap:
Then there's Time TV blogger James Poniewozik's posting with the hilarious title, "Charlie Brown, the football and Linus":
I've read so many postings about the ep filled with superlatives. I watched it with three other people, and to a person, our jaws dropped and there were verbal utterings of amazement during his scene with Ilana. So we should just invest him as king and have done with it. Who has a crown and septer? Is there anything in his wardrober, tigerlily?
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Post by tigerlily on Mar 11, 2010 14:06:15 GMT -4
I voted it a seven. It didn't really live up to my expectations, and I think all of his other centric epis have been much stronger in terms of storyline. But of course, Michael's acting was first-class, I have no complaints there. His conversation with Illana was so sad and pathetic - hand him another Emmy, please!!!! On the other hand, I really didn't dig the high school drama at all. I feel like they could have come up with a much more powerful way for Ben to correct his mistakes with Alex.
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Post by tigerlily on Mar 11, 2010 14:07:44 GMT -4
So we should just invest him as king and have done with it. Who has a crown and septer? Is there anything in his wardrober, tigerlily? ha ha ha....I just saw this!!! * bows respectfully* I shall see what I can do for His Majesty... ;D
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Post by tigerlily on Mar 11, 2010 14:10:09 GMT -4
We saw this phenomenon with Michael. No matter how much he tried to kill himself once he was off island, he stayed alive. Only when the freighter exploded did he get killed.
Just out of curiosity, do we know whether Michael was a candidate?
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